From: Joachim Dietrich <jdietric@bond.edu.au>
To: obligations@uwo.ca
Date: 13/02/2022 23:27:30 UTC
Subject: FW: HCA on the test for employment status

Dear All,

Thanks to everyone for the useful discussion.

Cases such as Darling Island should not be looked at in isolation. Most cases in which resort to master’s tort theory versus servant’s tort theory might actually make a difference arise in a statutory context, and so those cases are, ultimately, decided by resort to statutory interpretation. The outcomes of those cases are sometimes consistent with MTT (and inconsistent with STT), and sometimes consistent with STT (and inconsistent with MTT), but those theories seldom drive the outcome. Iain Field and I discuss the issue in our article J Dietrich and I Field, “Statutes and Theories of Vicarious Liability” (2019) 43 MULR 515.

Regards

Joachim

 

From: Neil Foster <neil.foster@newcastle.edu.au>
Sent: Saturday, 12 February 2022 10:38 PM
To: Robert Stevens <
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Subject: Re: HCA on the test for employment status

 

Dear Rob;

Your comment made me re-read Darling Island v Long and you are quite correct that it is very hard to see why Fullager J, if he thought that vicarious liability attached liability for wrongs, did not apply that here where the employee had committed a breach of the statutory duty imposed specifically on the employee (but not on the employer). I agree that his “throw-away” remark, that “It is a misuse of a term with a long-established meaning to call a breach of a statutory duty a " tort"” is clearly wrong in light of the history and subsequent development of the BSD tort!

The problem with the case is that it is at the intersection of two complex areas: vicarious liability and the nature of the tort of breach of statutory duty. I think it may be worth unpacking which comments in each judgment are directed to which of these issues.

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Neil

 

 

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From: Robert Stevens <robert.stevens@law.ox.ac.uk>
Date: Saturday, 12 February 2022 at 12:25 am
To: Neil Foster <
neil.foster@newcastle.edu.au>, Joshua Getzler <joshua.getzler@st-hughs.ox.ac.uk>, Paula Giliker <Paula.Giliker@bristol.ac.uk>, Prue Vines <p.vines@unsw.edu.au>, Peter Watts <pg.watts@auckland.ac.nz>, obligations@uwo.ca <obligations@uwo.ca>
Subject: RE: HCA on the test for employment status

The problem with Fullager J’s view is that it is inconsistent with the result of the case.

 

The statutory duty was owed by the employee, not by the employer for whose actions they were responsible. When the employee breached the duty they owed, no liability was imposed on the employer. If the breach of a duty by the employee sufficed, the result is wrong.

 

Fullager J’s attempt to square the result with his view of vicarious liability (breaches of statutory duties aren’t torts) is unpersuasive.  The majority has the better of it, and I think that represents the law in Australia.

 

Conversely, if a statutory duty is imposed upon X Ltd not to do Y, and X Ltd’s employee does Y whilst acting in the course of her employment, X Ltd is liable. Even if the same duty is not imposed on the employee, so that the employee is personally in breach of nothing. (A common case is where X Ltd owes a  statutory duty as an employer not to discriminate against its employees or applicants. That duty may not be owed by one employee to another.) I can’t off the top of my head give an Australian case like that.

 

When it matters to the result, the master’s tort theory wins. Despite academic disapproval.

 

From: Neil Foster <neil.foster@newcastle.edu.au>
Sent: 11 February 2022 11:55
To: Joshua Getzler <
joshua.getzler@st-hughs.ox.ac.uk>; Robert Stevens <robert.stevens@law.ox.ac.uk>; Paula Giliker <Paula.Giliker@bristol.ac.uk>; Prue Vines <p.vines@unsw.edu.au>; Peter Watts <pg.watts@auckland.ac.nz>; obligations@uwo.ca
Subject: Re: HCA on the test for employment status

 

Dear Colleagues;

Thank you all for the kind words!

On Paula’s question, as Rob says it seems pretty clear that of the three Justices in the “major plurality” (for want of a better term), this paragraph at least was from Edelman J. (I see this in the reference to Pioneer Mortgage Services Pty Ltd v Columbus Capital Pty Ltd , a decision his Honour was part of when on the Full Court of the Federal Court.) However, I wouldn’t myself read too much into the “agency” language or the “policy”/”secondary” language as something new. I read this as really replicating what have traditionally been described as the “master’s tort theory” and the “servant’s tort theory” as doctrinal explanations of the doctrine of vicarious liability, especially when you notice that the footnotes refer to Darling Island Stevedoring and Lighterage Co Ltd v Long and the contrasting approaches to the question in that important decision. There Kitto J in the majority adopted the master’s tort theory and said that VL attached because the employer was deemed to be acting through the employee (very close to agency). But in a strong dissent, Fullager J adopted the servant’s tort theory:

 

The liability is a true vicarious liability: that is to say, the master is liable not for a breach of a duty resting on him and broken by him, but for a breach of duty resting on another and broken by another.

 

It is this version which the majority here describes as “policy based”. It is also, of course, despite the efforts of Rob and a few others (arguably including Edelman J) the dominant explanation accepted today; though it has to be said that because of the spit on the issue in Long’s case there is no clear statement of such in the ratio of any recent HCA decision. (Though see NSW v Lepore [2003] HCA 4, per Kirby J at [299]). The Pioneer decision was at pains to explain the relevant result as flowing whichever of the two theories was adopted!

On the difference here from Uber v Aslam [2021] UKSC 5 I agree with you Rob, a quick look at that decision shows that the UKSC there were interpreting the word “worker” as defined in section 230(3) of the Employment Rights Act 1996 and were not basing their decision solely on the common law definition of “employee”- see eg paras [35]-[38] of that decision. But as the HCA point out here, it seems that it may also be relevant that the UK courts have given contracts involving employment some special rules which they say the Australian courts should not adopt.

Regards

Neil

 

 

 

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From: Joshua Getzler <joshua.getzler@st-hughs.ox.ac.uk>
Date: Friday, 11 February 2022 at 10:17 pm
To: Robert Stevens <
robert.stevens@law.ox.ac.uk>, Paula Giliker <Paula.Giliker@bristol.ac.uk>, Prue Vines <p.vines@unsw.edu.au>, Peter Watts <pg.watts@auckland.ac.nz>, Neil Foster <neil.foster@newcastle.edu.au>, obligations@uwo.ca <obligations@uwo.ca>
Subject: Re: HCA on the test for employment status

Interesting that co-trusteeships, co-directors, maybe partners in some cases, have independent secondary duties to monitor and control each other, which is not classically described as an attributive agency. Becomes murky when fiduciary ideas leak into employment relationships.

Great praise to Neil

Josh

 

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From: Robert Stevens <robert.stevens@law.ox.ac.uk>
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2022 10:37:20 AM
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Paula.Giliker@bristol.ac.uk>; Prue Vines <p.vines@unsw.edu.au>; Peter Watts <pg.watts@auckland.ac.nz>; Neil Foster <neil.foster@newcastle.edu.au>; obligations@uwo.ca <obligations@uwo.ca>
Subject: RE: HCA on the test for employment status

 

Repeating the thanks for Neil, and in anticipation of his views.

 

This is Edelman, and he has said it before, once as part of a unanimous court.

 

I, of course, think the agency conception is right and that it is the only possible way of understanding the law as it is.

 

The other case he refers to is that of the High Court of Oz in Darling Island Stevedoring v Long

 

The actual result of which is only explicable in terms of agency reasoning

 

http://www8.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/cth/HCA/1957/26.html

 

So, I think it alive and well in Australia. And anywhere else where the law (still) makes sense.

 

(Am I right in thinking that the difference between this case and the UKSC decision in Uber BV v Aslam is that the Australian legislation refers to, and incorporates, the common law concept of employee, whereas the UK legislation refers to “workers” and doesn’t incorporate by reference the common law concept?)

 

R

 

From: Paula Giliker <Paula.Giliker@bristol.ac.uk>
Sent: 11 February 2022 10:18
To: Prue Vines <
p.vines@unsw.edu.au>; Peter Watts <pg.watts@auckland.ac.nz>; Neil Foster <neil.foster@newcastle.edu.au>; obligations@uwo.ca
Subject: Re: HCA on the test for employment status

 

Thank you Neil - very helpful - and to echo the comments below.

 

One point particularly interested me in the CFMMEU case and it was the description of vicarious liability at [82}:

 

"There are two conceptions of vicarious liability of an employer: the traditional "agency" conception, where an employer has a primary liability for the actions of an employee or other agent; and the policy‑based conception, where an employer has a secondary liability for the liability of the employee."

 

Although the agency reference leads to a fraud case (the UK is still trying to work out where this fits into vicarious liability) I wonder to what extent agency reasoning is still given credence in Australia.  It was also interesting to see secondary liability described as 'policy-based' given the PAC case.

 

Any thoughts Neil?

 

Best wishes, 

 

Paula

 


From: Prue Vines <p.vines@unsw.edu.au>
Sent: 10 February 2022 00:37
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pg.watts@auckland.ac.nz>; Neil Foster <neil.foster@newcastle.edu.au>; obligations@uwo.ca <obligations@uwo.ca>
Subject: RE: HCA on the test for employment status

 

Indeed, thank you Peter – just what I was going to say myself. What you do is really useful, Neil!

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Sent: Thursday, 10 February 2022 11:34 AM
To: Neil Foster <
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Subject: Re: HCA on the test for employment status

 

Dear All, Email is a very mixed blessing, I know, but I just want to acknowledge and thank Neil (perhaps on behalf of all subscribers) for the effort he has been putting in over many years to keep us abreast of “obligations” material out of Australia. You do a great job, Neil, and long may it continue. Best regards. Peter.

 

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Dear Colleagues;

The High Court of Australia handed down two decisions today dealing with the same issue: how to apply the common law tests to determine whether a worker is an employee or an independent contractor? The decisions were Construction, Forestry, Maritime, Mining and Energy Union v Personnel Contracting Pty Ltd [2022] HCA 1 (9 February 2022) http://www8.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/cth/HCA/2022/1.html and ZG Operations Australia Pty Ltd v Jamsek [2022] HCA 2 (9 February 2022) http://www8.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/cth/HCA/2022/2.html . The CFMMEU case was the one where the reasoning of the judges was spelled out in detail; the ZG case applied those principles in the facts of that case.

On this list I assume not a lot of background is needed to the issues, but perhaps colleagues from elsewhere in the common law world should know that (1) it has been made clear over a number of years that these two “pigeonholes”, either “employee” or “contractor”, are the only two options in Australia as far as the common law is concerned for classifying someone doing paid work for someone else; (2) the main Australian decisions on the question are Stevens v Brodribb (1986) 160 CLR 16 and Hollis v Vabu (2001) 207 CLR 21 which have been generally seen in the past as authorising application of a “multi-factorial” test weighing up a range of factors to answer the question. Both these cases are now fairly old and the HCA has not revisited them during that time.

It was surprising to me to see that at least 5 of the members of the bench were scathing about applying a “multi-factorial” test. The main judgment in each case was written by Kiefel CJ, Keane and Edelman JJ; there were judgments generally agreeing with this “main plurality” decision from a “minor plurality” of Gordon J and Steward J; and a dissenting approach to the law in judgments written by Gageler and Gleeson JJ (though in the event agreeing with the outcome favoured by the majority in each case.)

The primary issue was whether, in determining employment status, the court should consider only the specific contractual terms that the parties had agreed to, or whether the court should also take into account later behaviour and consider how the contract was carried out. The majority view in both cases is that contractual terms must be given priority. At [43] in CFMMEU:

 

“In cases such as the present, where the terms of the parties' relationship are comprehensively committed to a written contract, the validity of which is not challenged as a sham nor the terms of which otherwise varied, waived or the subject of an estoppel, there is no reason why the legal rights and obligations so established should not be decisive of the character of the relationship.”

 

Support for this approach was found in two decisions of the Privy Council, Narich and Chaplin. Another quote from [55]:

 

“55                         To the extent that it has been supposed that a departure from the long standing approach predating, but exemplified in, Chaplin and Narich was required by this Court's decisions in Stevens and Hollis, that understanding is also not correct. In neither Stevens nor Hollis did this Court suggest that, where one person has done work for another pursuant to a comprehensive written contract, the court must perform a multifactorial balancing exercise whereby the history of all the dealings between the parties is to be exhaustively reviewed even though no party disputes the validity of the contract.”

 

The major plurality are clear that this does not always mean accepting a “label” put on the relationship by the parties (see [58] “The parties' legitimate freedom to agree upon the rights and duties which constitute their relationship should not be misunderstood. It does not extend to attaching a "label" to describe their relationship which is inconsistent with the rights and duties otherwise set forth.”) But primacy must be given to the actual legal relationships created by their agreement, and these will be clear where there is a full written contract.

See the following :

 

“59                         Where the parties have comprehensively committed the terms of their relationship to a written contract the validity of which is not in dispute, the characterisation of their relationship as one of employment or otherwise proceeds by reference to the rights and obligations of the parties under that contract. Where no party seeks to challenge the efficacy of the contract as the charter of the parties' rights and duties, on the basis that it is either a sham or otherwise ineffective under the general law or statute , there is no occasion to seek to determine the character of the parties' relationship by a wide ranging review of the entire history of the parties' dealings. Such a review is neither necessary nor appropriate because the task of the court is to enforce the parties' rights and obligations, not to form a view as to what a fair adjustment of the parties' rights might require .

60                           In this respect, the principles governing the interpretation of a contract of employment are no different from those that govern the interpretation of contracts generally. The view to the contrary, which has been taken in the United Kingdom , cannot stand with the statements of the law in Chaplin and Narich.”

 

The approach taken by Gordon J, supported separately by Steward J in CFMMEU, is similar with its emphasis on the initial agreement between the parties. One issue at stake in all this is the authority of a decision called Odco in which the Full Federal Court seemed to agree that a particular form of words in a labour hire contract created an arrangement where workers were not employees of either the labour hire firm or the host. For reasons I would need to explore more closely, the major plurality held that Odco was wrongly decided (see [86]), but the two dissenters held that it was correct (see [157]) and Steward J also affirmed its correctness (see [222]) on the basis that it had been followed for a long time. Gordon J, whether intentionally or not, did not refer to it. Its status now may be a matter of some doubt.

The dissenters, Gageler and Gleeson JJ, were explicit in rejecting the approach of the rest of the court. One quote may give a feel: at [103]

 

“The first stage involves examining the nature of a relationship of employment at common law – the critical point being that it is a relationship which exists in fact. The second stage involves identifying the scope of the inquiry to be undertaken to determine whether a relationship that exists in fact is a relationship of that nature – the critical point being that it involves looking beyond contractual terms to contractual performance. The final stage involves examining the relationship that existed in fact…”

 

As it turned out, though, all members of the court agreed that in CFMMEU the young unskilled backpacker engaged to do work on a construction site was not really a “contractor” as documents said, and was in fact an employee; whereas in ZG truck drivers who had set up partnerships with their wives to contract their services were not employees.

The other point to note is that there is also something of a different approach to even framing the tests. The major plurality favours the question being put in general terms as “whether a labourer is conducting his or her own independent business, as distinct from serving in the business of the employer” (at [35], CFMMEU). The dissenters saw that factor as relevant but “Each consideration is a matter of degree. None is complete in itself.” (at [114]).

There are also some interesting comments on vicarious liability, but nothing too exciting- the court accepts that the employment relationship is the main one in which VL will arise, but notes that when it comes to resolving that issue, the existence of an employment relationship is only one stage, and the second stage is to consider whether the wrong was committed “in the course of” the employment. The fact that the second stage will involve consideration of “post contractual behaviour” does not mean that such behaviour is necessarily relevant to the first stage, the existence of the employment relationship. (See Kiefel CJ, Keane and Edelman JJ at [82]-[82]; Gordon J at [191]).

Regards

Neil

 

 

 

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